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What could Bertuzzi get in a trade

Mar. 28, 2022 at 12:05 p.m.
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Mar. 28, 2022 at 12:06 p.m.
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Mar. 28, 2022 at 12:10 p.m.
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The Zucker to PIT deal is probably the best comp
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Mar. 28, 2022 at 12:12 p.m.
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Mar. 28, 2022 at 12:13 p.m.
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Depends on the team really, it's a very vague question.
Mar. 28, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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To even start the conversation, the return would have to be equal to, or greater than, 1 A+ asset (high 1st round pick or top prospect), 1 A asset (mid to late 1st round pick or top 5 prospect) and 1 B level asset (2nd round pick or top 20 prospect). Anything less and Detroit doesn't move him.
Mar. 28, 2022 at 12:14 p.m.
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Montreal fans will say Brendan Gallagher and Jeff Petry. And then they'll argue amongst themselves about whether it's an overpay for Bertuzzi.

I couldn't help myself -- low-hanging fruit.
Mar. 28, 2022 at 11:05 p.m.
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Petry + 1st 2023 Habs + Struble + Mysak for Bertuzzi + Hronek
Apr. 2, 2022 at 10:35 p.m.
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Don't see why Montreal would want to trade for one year of Bertuzzi. Certainly Bertuzzi will be traded and get a nice return at TDL if he hasn't resigned with the Wings
Apr. 3, 2022 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Don't see why Montreal would want to trade for one year of Bertuzzi. Certainly Bertuzzi will be traded and get a nice return at TDL if he hasn't resigned with the Wings


i think that any trade for him would come with an extension because he has such a steep price
Apr. 3, 2022 at 9:29 a.m.
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i think that any trade for him would come with an extension because he has such a steep price


So you think extensions are easy? I'm sure the Wings are or already have had initial discussions with Bertuzzi about an extension
But what you are requesting so the following conversation from Yzerman. " Hey Bert, we really like you, but here's a contract so we can trade you Montreal. Now hurry up, and sign the contract. cause we want your ass outta town"
Yep, that's going work for the Wings and Bertuzzi.
Apr. 3, 2022 at 9:38 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
So you think extensions are easy? I'm sure the Wings are or already have had initial discussions with Bertuzzi about an extension
But what you are requesting so the following conversation from Yzerman. " Hey Bert, we really like you, but here's a contract so we can trade you Montreal. Now hurry up, and sign the contract. cause we want your ass outta town"
Yep, that's going work for the Wings and Bertuzzi.


i dont think you understand how trades work. it would be like how Lindholm and Pageau were. The team agrees upon a trade and in the agreement, the team negotiates with the players agent and asks him if he wants to sign an extension. Then they roughly agree upon a deal, trade goes through, hash out the small details and boom. And Bertuzzi has created a rift with the org because of being unvaxed so yes, they likely are fielding offers. More likely he doesnt get traded but no need to just be rude to me.
Apr. 3, 2022 at 9:45 a.m.
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Quoting: oliver_wahlstrom
i dont think you understand how trades work. it would be like how Lindholm and Pageau were. The team agrees upon a trade and in the agreement, the team negotiates with the players agent and asks him if he wants to sign an extension. Then they roughly agree upon a deal, trade goes through, hash out the small details and boom. And Bertuzzi has created a rift with the org because of being unvaxed so yes, they likely are fielding offers. More likely he doesnt get traded but no need to just be rude to me.


I'm not being rude to you....just trying to be factual. Bertuzzi would certainly get his back up when told by his employer, he's not wanted anymore (hence the trade). You can't compare Pageau and Lindholm because they were going to UFAs in a few months from non playoff teams.
I can't see Bertuzzi wanting to go to Montreal anyways....but that's not the point. Now Bertuzzi and the Wings know he isn't resigning for the Wings, the only other deal out then really is a TDL. Then maybe you can get into a Pageau/Lindholm situation.. But a full season out, "telling" your player to negotiate and sign with one team....to me that's really unpractical.
Apr. 3, 2022 at 1:44 p.m.
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I'm not being rude to you....just trying to be factual. Bertuzzi would certainly get his back up when told by his employer, he's not wanted anymore (hence the trade). You can't compare Pageau and Lindholm because they were going to UFAs in a few months from non playoff teams.
I can't see Bertuzzi wanting to go to Montreal anyways....but that's not the point. Now Bertuzzi and the Wings know he isn't resigning for the Wings, the only other deal out then really is a TDL. Then maybe you can get into a Pageau/Lindholm situation.. But a full season out, "telling" your player to negotiate and sign with one team....to me that's really unpractical.


bertuzzi would be a UFA in a few months... this is next year genius. use context
Apr. 3, 2022 at 5:53 p.m.
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bertuzzi would be a UFA in a few months... this is next year genius. use context


You're certainly not a genius. You made this post for the summer of 2022 season. That is why it's really unpractical for the Wings to tell a player he's not wanted for the upcoming season.
Now come February of 2023, if the Wings haven't resigned Bertuzzi, yeah then you have a point about trade.(as I suggested.
But as I suggested originally telling a player to hurry up and sign a contract with another team because we want to trade doesn't happen when a player has full year of to play with this original team
Apr. 3, 2022 at 6:51 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
You're certainly not a genius. You made this post for the summer of 2022 season. That is why it's really unpractical for the Wings to tell a player he's not wanted for the upcoming season.
Now come February of 2023, if the Wings haven't resigned Bertuzzi, yeah then you have a point about trade.(as I suggested.
But as I suggested originally telling a player to hurry up and sign a contract with another team because we want to trade doesn't happen when a player has full year of to play with this original team


so youre assuming when I am talking about? Thats weird. This is a general draft of what he could get in a trade. And we normally see players in their primes after career years and getting traded going on to sign extensions right away to capitalize on it.

"telling a player to hurry up and sign a contract with another team because we want to trade doesn't happen when a player has full year of to play with this original team" so why is that? because they dont want to stay with that team? maybe they havent played any games for them? cough cough Pageau lol. you are out of your mind, bro. stop dodging the point
Jul. 3, 2022 at 6:41 a.m.
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I'd say a mid 1st, B-prospect, and a good roster player, at least as a rental
Jul. 9, 2022 at 8:12 p.m.
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Can see this being a realistic trade considering we need LD bodies. https://www.capfriendly.com/trade-machine/15555
 
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